Sigh…. Its much simpler to use although it doesnt record sessions for future review but I find it much better for indoor turbo trainer work outs. I am looking for an inexpensive way for my girlfriend to be able to track her speed, and cadence during and after rides. For anyone looking for an app that displays distance, speed, cadence, average speed and average cadence (using smart bluetooth sensors) then download ‘Newco Bike Speed and Cadence’ app in the app store. Almost all of the apps out there use GPS for speed, virtually all of them. I then set up two Zwift sessions, with exactly the same height, weight, bike, wheels, gender, FTP , etc. Or use a system that instead of cable ties I can use rubber bands with my garmin? Anyway, here’s the link: link to Whereas the wahoo, you’ll have to take spoke magnet, the speed sensor, and then remove the pedal to get the cadence sensor off. I’ll get my money back on the Suunto Ant+ adapter either returning to shop or via ebay. Hello DCRM, excellent blog. The extra hardware, in the form of a speed/cadence sensor … The Wahoo BlueSC speed and cadence sensor transforms your phone into a powerful cycling computer. The Wahoo Blue SC mount includes two options for mounting the sensor to your bike - a rubber band mount and a zip tie mount. The good, the bad, and the ugly. The Biologic and QooQoon are good cases too. Reason I ask is before BlueSC was released I opted to purchase Scosche’s BLE SC unit which looks identical physically to Wahoo’s (same manufacturer?) Wiggle has the older version that is only Bluetooth 4.0. Using Bluetooth Smart and ANT+ technology, it tracks cycling speed, cadence, and distance which can be paired with your favorite cycling app including The Sufferfest and Zwift, or paired to your bike computer. Thanks! No problem, here's the platform I use - you can too! Set up: So is there an app that does all this and could save some money? ), as well as, repositioned the speed magnet to be to the left of the line. So you know if the Blue SC is can transmit to both a phone and watch simultaneously? Due to a Blutooth Smart limitation it won’t talk to both your iPhone and your V650 at the same time. For many though, the cadence measurement is the more useful metric.  Cadence is simply a measurement of how many revolutions per minute (as in RPM) your pedal makes.  Cadence is normally measured on the left crank, right where the magnet is attached at the point the pedal connects to the crank.  Most folks tend to have a natural cadence between about 80 and 90RPM.  There exists a number of scenarios why you’d want to train at a higher or lower cadence dependent on your training goals and race scenarios.  But that’s an entirely different topic and lively discussion for another day. : The problem with most spin bikes is that there is no cadence function and you have to calculate cadence by counting your pedal strokes (which I find irritating). Now, one trick with the Google Latitude app (Android), is that as of today, it doesn’t support the BlueSC – because the Android platform is still segmented when it comes to true BLE support. I have a Suunto Ambit 3. Get all your awesome high quality DCR kit and gear here! For European/Australian/New Zealand readers, you can also pick up the unit via Wiggle at the links below, which helps support the site too! The circumference you are measuring is the tire, not from hub to spoke magnet. Or would you recommend another cadence/speed sensor for this? the faster the flywheel spins, the more difficult it is to maintain that speed. He said the Android capability would be ready in 8 weeks. Updated constantly! Where can i buy one? link to But I brought it with me and will try it later tonight at the hotel to see if at at least pairs and shows cadence/wheelspeed while using a magnet sitting there (better than no test). The single sensor can mount to the bike… Here’s my most recent gadget recommendations guide and trainers here – covering almost every category of sports gadgets out there. But wait, are you a female and feel like these things might not apply to you? I know I am expecting to have to get a new phone to add support into IpBike. This didn’t change even after 3 minutes of turning pedals/wheel. Usually this only seems to last a second or so, but it’s very frustrating when you’re pushing yourself at your limit. If not its there as an emergency and can if necessary be simply connected to the phone whilst riding using a standard cable. Sorry if this question has been asked. Also, there was a link to Clever Training website with a 10% discount code on your review but these items are not listed on the website anymore. Wahoo Blue SC Cycling Speed and Cadence Sensor, Bluetooth / ANT+ 4 out of 5 stars 1,101 CDN$ 88.95 CDN$ 88 . Advertisement.  I aim to leave no stone unturned. You need to exit/disable the ANT Agent software, then TrainerRoad will be able to find it. Can’t upload a photo to the comments but you can email me for one Quick question…how’s the battery life in real world scenario? I prefer cable ties anyway (compatible), especially of you don’t need to move it between bikes. Integrated with Bluetooth and ANT+, RPM sensors connect to smartphones, tablets, and bike computers by Wahoo, Polar, Garmin, and more. Magnets are not that close as you suggested in one of your installation suggestions; will also put in fresh batteries. IpSensorMan on Nexus 7 just picked up the sensor, but the Ambit3 doesn’t seem to be even trying. Available On Amazon: Garmin Bike Speed 2 Sensor Contain zero magnets, the Garmin Bike Speed 2 is an all-rounder sensor that can help you monitor riding speed to make progress faster. I think ipBike just added support for BLE devices (or, was just about to, one of the two…). You should check out my videos. Right now I have the respective indicator lines crossing through the middle of “cadence” and “speed” magnets. Wanna save some cash and support the site? Of course, with the inclusion of GPS is 99% of cell phones out on the market today, you may be wondering why you’d want a speed sensor.  There are really two reasons – first is the ability to still track mileage when your bike is in motion but your phone may not be with you.  And the second is the ability to track speed indoors while on a trainer. I don’t have a bike computer now, and will probably never be a real “racer” so I don’t mind having a phone on my bike as a computer. Add Cadence/Speed/Odometer to Your Spin Bike. the blue SC seems to support BLE and ANT+ according to their website. Speaking of which, I don’t expect to see Bluetooth Smart supported by Garmin anytime soon – since that would effectively be proclaiming the death of ANT+.  And even then, I’m not sure it’s really necessary.  There are now chips that allow sport head units to connect to both ANT+ and Bluetooth Smart devices, such as in the Motorola Motoactv.  Though, the Motoactv does not yet support the Blue SC. Equipped with Bluetooth and ANT+, it tracks cycling speed, cadence, and distance in your favorite cycling apps or on your bike computer. Whereas for your bike with the KICKR, you’d want this sensor (BlueSC) if you wanted to get speed/cadence onto your iPhone. The unit that was sent to me was a pre-production model that didn’t quite have all the fancy packaging with it.  Instead, it had more of a lingerie look. I’m trying to get this to work with my spin bike. Most spin bikes use a solid flywheel to simulate the resistance, making the RPM Speed Sensor difficult (if not impossible) to properly mount. Integrated with Bluetooth and ANT+, RPM sensors connect to smartphones, tablets, and bike computers by Wahoo, Polar, Garmin, and more. APP was downloaded Thanks and everyone here at work enjoy reading your reviews! Ideally some sort of fabric strap would be required to wrap around in the interior frame area and then a way to attach it to the shoe. Thanks! (T-F) 4pm-9pm GMT Would like to see a review! It measures the rotational speed of the wheel and multiplies it by the wheel size to determine speed. Outstanding blogs. Different tire sizes give you different circumferences so you need to find your tire width and put it into a calculator that identies the given circumference or measure it yourself by rolling the bike’s wheel one complete rotation and then measuring it with a ruler/measuring tape. Ok I’ll checked that and it seems nice to! Further, even when it does find a sensor, it doesn’t show you the value being transmitted in the setup page (useful for troubleshooting sensor placement).  And despite trying, I was unable to get it to pair with the new sensor – instead only the Blue HR heart rate strap: Finally, within Wahoo’s own app you can easily pair with any of the Wahoo Bluetooth Low Energy sensors as well as ANT+ sensors.  And you can mix and match as you see fit. The key is position. I will be using the trainer to train for mountain climbing as I live in Southwest Florida which is pretty flat but will spend one week in northern italy this october biking in the mountains in preparation for my participation in the La Pina (Gran Fondo Pinarello in July 2016). The always popular Wahoo Blue SC is a Bluetooth 4.0 compatible cadence and speed sensor that can work with both a smartphone or an ANT+ cycling computer.. Does anyone know if this combination will work? Ray. Wahoo odometer app only seems to be avail for iPhone and the other apps don’t display cadence which I need on the trainer. I believe Wahoo have mentioned installing upside down. BT 4.1 or 5.0), but most are saying it would be tied to a hardware update (though it doesn’t need to be). I would like to support DCR and enjoy ad-free DC Rainmaker ($20 per year). But, there are some forces that will help increase device support of Bluetooth Smart in sport – the first of which will likely be Polar (despite the fact that Motorola has had limited support since October 2011).  They’ve (Polar) been very vocal in their view that the long term sensor market will be Bluetooth Smart, and not ANT+.  To date, in order to support that they’ve released their own Bluetooth Smart HR strap – the H7.  This strap is compatible with everything the competing Wahoo Fitness Blue HR strap is compatible with, since they leverage the same API.  I do have a Polar H7 I bought, I just haven’t had the time to spend with it.  They’ve also noted plans to update their new pedal based power meter to support Bluetooth Smart, possibly in the fall. Your average speed/distance might nearly be the same, but instant speed is 100 times better with a speed sensor over GPS. Especially since their website doesn’t support tcx export either, just a simple gpx with no extensions, so if you use their app you can’t even get all your data out. I’ve already changed out the battery as Cyclemeter was showing it at 39% and a digital multimeter showed it under 3 volts which is apparently too low according to support. Wahoo transmits across both ANT+ and Bluetooth Smart on open channels that easily accessible with The Sufferfest app. One of my primary “likes” for the Garmin is that it seems very simply to switch the sensors from one bike to another. This means that anytime you have the sensor attached to your bike, it’ll keep track of your mileage – even when no phone or head unit is around. I’m not sure why companies can’t include diagram instructions like the old days. I believe the line is actually the light. But it works. No cost to you, easy as pie! Wahoo customer service was great though, they expedited me a new unit after explaining the issue. They look the same. Does this sound like the best option for this purpose? Being part of the Wahoo ecosystem, the ELEMNT connects seamlessly with other products like the KICKR smart trainer, TICKR heart rate monitor, BLUE SC speed and cadence sensor, and RPM cadence sensor. It does. Condition is "New". I want to order this before I get the watch, and I can’t decide what to have, cause I got zero knowledge 🙂. No method without an app, such as TrainerRoad or similiar. On Wahoo website site, I see they have the Wahoo fitness KICKR and KICKR X that would provide heart rate data and the Wahoo Blue SC Cycling Speed and cadence. It doesn’t “care” what gear I am in. In the UK/EU/Australia/New Zealand? (posted same post in the Garmin Speed/Cadence post, but not all read both, so interested in hitting up those the might have wahoo already), Anyone with views on this Garmin Speed/Cadence versus the Wahoo BlueSC v2. As always, thanks for reading – and if you’ve got any questions, feel free to drop them below.  Thanks! Sensor was mounted as instructed I don’t think my cadence dropout problem was resolved either with the replacement BlueSC. so is it true that the fenix2/fenix3 would pair with this fella? Piotr. The key difference though is that these new Bluetooth Smart sensors are NOT backwards compatible with pre-Bluetooth 4.0 devices.  For example, within Apple phones only the latest iPhone 4s supports Bluetooth 4.0.  On the Android front, there exists a greater number of BT 4.0 compatible phones.  But without a phone released sometime after roughly December 2011 – you likely don’t have BT4.0. I’m headed to Washington DC – what do you recommend for training? my weekly podcast - with GPLAMA, which is packed with both gadget and non-gadget goodness! I think Kinomaps would do it but not sure? Can you sent a link from where I can buy it? . The RPM Speed Sensor is designed to mount on the hub of a bicycle wheel. It will only talk to one or the other. Does the Wahoo TICKR/TICKR RUN is also working with the Polar V800? A call to Suunto revealed that there is a settings menu with pairing options on the device, and indeed it paired with Wahoo Blue SC just fine. Wahoo Fitness BlueSC Speed and Cadence Sensor with ANT+. You’d have to defer to the Wahoo Fitness site at this point: – as Clever Training no longer sells Wahoo Fitness products. ※Attention: one sensor can ONLY select one mode (Speed or Cadence) at the one time. but both Scosche units on two bikes create many spikes and drops in both Speed (drops to 0) and Cadence (spikes to 160, drops to 0) (many = 12-15 over a 2.5hr ride on a trainer, mostly drops). I think the only device that doesn’t work is the Galaxy 7. Blue SC is a lot more finnicky and sometimes gives up in the rain. I suspect there’s an issue where something is blocking the sensor searching, rather than a Wahoo issue. Not sure I can wait that long for a HR and cadence, as well as speed, etc, so may just go with Garmin 500 bundle. If you tend to ride the same routes over and over again, the 500/510 is a better bet. Garmin Bike Speed 2 and Cadence 2 Sensor With wireless connectivity, it has 2 speed and cadence sensor to find your personal best score in biking to motivate yourself. I think you’d need three. Posted on November 14, 2014 in Cycling, Equipment, Reviews // 7 Comments. I’m interested by the polar V650, do you think that the Wahoo Blue SC sensor is compatible with the V650 I thought the Wahoo Blue SC would be an option because it can connect to my phone and I can maybe download apps with zone/interval workouts or consider doing Zwift since it offers a mobile app as well. Will this work with the Free Strava App, or will we need to upgrade to Premium? The first Bluetooth LE speed and cadence sensor for bikes is the Wahoo Blue SC, which sells for a reasonable $60. You'll support the site, and get ad-free DCR! it is waterproof, and has a bike mounting bracket available. Looking for the best sports tech deals for the holidays? Then check out the massive list of everything, from $150 off the Garmin Fenix 6, plus big deals on Apple, GoPro, Suunto, Polar, Samsung, Withings, and many more! Wahoo Cadence and Speed Sensors Setup for Spin Bike - YouTube I personally prefer a dedicated device, but to each their own. Would your hunch be firmware in the SC unit and would the Wahoo be any better assuming they wrote the firmware themselves? If order Wahoo BL HR and SC sensor from Clever Training and there is a problem, do I return it to CT or Wahoo? Yup, it (v2) dual-broadcasts, one of the great things about it. Thanks for the quick reply Ray! Either way I repositioned the cadence magnet to be to the right line the line/light(? First of all, thank you for sharing the results of your researches and analysis and providing clear and simple responses to the numerous questions that are being posted. Now that trainerroad supports bluetooth le on Mac, I’ve decided to give it a whirl. Totally unaware if that is a light for the magnet, and not an indicator line. I was going to try the BlueSC next (again), but ran out of time before I had to run to the airport. Great, thanks you helped me make up my mind, I was loing at Garmin’s and this is a lot cheaper choice. Will she be able to see speed and cadence info during rides? Check out my sensor recommendations here: link to It would be a bit of a pain to move across bikes frequently because you’d have to carefully position the cadence sensor then adjust the speed sensor arm each time. “Further, speed data is not recorded from the sensor – but rather only GPS. I have unsuccessful in trying to pair to using the Suunto Ant+ MoveStick. 4.2 out of 5 stars 1,101 ratings. Unfortunately, no way that I’ve found. Home is the nearest one, opening it Your current company in new york ohio oklahoma oregon pennsylvania rhode island south carolina baptist convention Factors when choosing carinsurance, youre within a 12, 18 or month-period But could still save you hundreds of families regarding their… galen c KW:i hit a parked car will my insurance go up. It works well. But that takes time.  Development time.  It also takes standards, ones that are just barely being supported for the heart rate device profile (protocol), and are still not fully finalized for the speed/cadence sensor.  No other device profiles exist (i.e. Cadence should work though. Once you pair them, you’ll see them connected within the main menu.  Note that I’ve also paired the Wahoo BlueHR strap in this example (as you can see with my BPM shown). Has anyone tried using this with a hed tri spoke? Are you willing to review or test beta products? 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